Not one to give up easily, President Donald Trump on Thursday expressed confidence he could still possibly secure a second term, despite the media and naysayers already counting him out.
Discussing the handful of key states which have as of yet not certified their election results, and where the Trump campaign still has pending litigation, the president said hand recounts and audits in those states could bring him closer to the 270 electoral college votes needed to win.
“We’re going to win Wisconsin,” the president told Washington Examiner’s Byron York.
“Arizona — it’ll be down to 8,000 votes, and if we can do an audit of the millions of votes, we’ll find 8,000 votes easy. If we can do an audit, we’ll be in good shape there.”
While the Trump campaign on Friday dropped a lawsuit in Arizona seeking to review in-person votes in the presidential race, the state has not yet certified their results.
Trump also remained optimistic he could still clinch victory from the jaws of defeat in other states, including Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina and Pennsylvania.
“Georgia, we’re going to win,” he told York, “because now, we’re down to about 10,000, 11,000 votes, and we have hand-counting.”
“Hand-counting is the best. To do a spin of the machine doesn’t mean anything. You pick up 10 votes. But when you hand-count — I think we’re going to win Georgia.”
Trump added he’ll win North Carolina, “unless they happen to find a lot of votes. I said, ‘When are they going to put in the new votes in North Carolina? When are they going to find a batch from Charlotte?’”
As for Michigan and Pennsylvania, the president believes his lawsuits highlighting poll observers being blocked from witnessing vote counts could prove detrimental for Democrats.
“They wouldn’t let our poll watchers and observers watch or observe,” Trump said. “That’s a big thing. They should throw those votes out that went through during those periods of time when [Trump observers] weren’t there. We went to court, and the judge ordered [the observers] back, but that was after two days, and millions of votes could have gone through. Millions. And we’re down 50,000.”
At one point in the interview, York says the president briefly reflected on losing, but in the next moment still clung to hope that enough election fraud could be exposed to tip the scale in his favor.
At one point in the conversation, the president seemed to consider and then quickly reject the idea of losing. “I’m a guy who realizes — five days ago, I thought, ‘Maybe,’” he said, pausing for just a second. “But, now I see evidence, and we have hundreds of affidavits,” referring to the testimonials included in his lawsuits.
In all, the president made it clear he has no intention to concede and is willing to continue fighting so long as his supporters are behind him.
Whatever the case, Trump is forging ahead. When I asked him how quickly he might turn things around, he said, “I don’t know. It’s probably two weeks, three weeks.” He knows the situation. He has heard many people tell him it’s over and time to concede. But at the very least, it is important for his most devoted supporters to see him fighting to stay in office. And he closed with a good-natured warning for everyone who has told him there is no hope: “Never bet against me.”
In an op-ed Friday, former Trump campaign adviser and GOP operative Roger Stone said the president still has a path to victory — so long as he doesn’t concede early.
“THERE IS A PATH FORWARD TO VICTORY FOR DONALD TRUMP – THAT IS WHAT THEY DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW,” Stone wrote.
“The only way President Trump won’t be President is if he concedes the election.”
“The Trump I have known for 40 years is a fighter who won’t do that.”
“So stop watching the fake news and ‘let your heart not be troubled’ (as my friend Sean Hannity would say) and live your life knowing this will all work out,” Stone said.